bunnialchemistmeep
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I went to italy last year, and EVERY SHIRT STAND I WENT TO HAD LUPIN MERCHANDISE. And I thought to myself, "hey, Lupin isn't very popular at all in america, but Italy had ALL the episodes of red and green jacket dubbed (I don't know about pink jacket, but i'm sure they did that too), and was selling merchandise EVERYWHERE! SO what is it that they are doing in italy to make Lupin so popular, and what can we do in america to do the same?"
my theories, in order of likelihood--
1: Good advertising on popular channels
2: Good voice actors (which they have, I think...I can't tell exactly, but it sounds pretty good)
3: available sources (i.e., you can buy it locally rather than online)
4: or perhaps, it just appeals to Italians.
any thoughts or theories? facts are nice too.
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Sad cactus
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« Reply #1: February 10, 2009, 01:36:55 PM » |
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Time helps, too. : ( for us, : ) for them. Lupin has had more than twenty years to fester in the minds and hearts of viewers in Italy.
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Gozar
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« Reply #2: February 10, 2009, 03:45:03 PM » |
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Lupin has been around in Italy from near the beginning of the Anime's run in Japan (Not sure exactly when). It's been able to stand the test of time there in the same way Bugs Bunny and what-not has in America.
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bunnialchemistmeep
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« Reply #3: February 10, 2009, 04:13:48 PM » |
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Time helps, too. : ( for us, : ) for them. Lupin has had more than twenty years to fester in the minds and hearts of viewers in Italy.
wow, I had no idea it ad been running that long...O.O I hate adult swim. they hate anime there, they imply it in their writing a lot, and they only keep the super-popular shows running. I wonder if they realize by cutting back o anime, they loose ALL their veiwers? sigh....if we could get it to run long enough.....how does Italy do it...? |
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mizducky
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« Reply #4: February 10, 2009, 04:32:11 PM » |
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At the risk of venturing way the heck into stereotypes, I can't help thinking that there's also something about the anime itself that has special appeal for large sectors of the Italian collective cultural psyche--let's see, the adventures of a wacky randy anti-authoritarian rascal who's infatuated with fast cars and fast women ... I dunno ...  |
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Fujiko Lover
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« Reply #5: February 10, 2009, 06:53:59 PM » |
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At the risk of venturing way the heck into stereotypes, I can't help thinking that there's also something about the anime itself that has special appeal for large sectors of the Italian collective cultural psyche--let's see, the adventures of a wacky randy anti-authoritarian rascal who's infatuated with fast cars and fast women ... I dunno ... Well, I'm not from Italy, but I am of primarily Italian descent... And I'm a Lupin fan. Maybe you're on to something! Perhaps it's genetic? |
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Gozar
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« Reply #6: February 10, 2009, 07:18:28 PM » |
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At the risk of venturing way the heck into stereotypes, I can't help thinking that there's also something about the anime itself that has special appeal for large sectors of the Italian collective cultural psyche--let's see, the adventures of a wacky randy anti-authoritarian rascal who's infatuated with fast cars and fast women ... I dunno ... Well, I'm not from Italy, but I am of primarily Italian descent... And I'm a Lupin fan. Maybe you're on to something! Perhaps it's genetic? LOL, I'm also Italian.  |
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rpguidry
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« Reply #7: February 10, 2009, 07:31:30 PM » |
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It's kinda funny, but the only time I've seen someone wearing a Lupin shirt was when I went to London (I was disappointed I didn't see anything Lupin I or III related in Paris).
I'd always heard that Lupin was popular in Italy. Add that to the fact that I've found Italian dubs of all the Second and third series episodes (I'm trying to remember if I've come across the Green Jacket in Italian or not) and every special\movie\OVA seems to have Italian subs (And dubs in some cases) I'm going to assume Lupin has a fanbase in Italy.
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Sad cactus
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« Reply #8: February 11, 2009, 07:37:52 AM » |
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Green is in Italian. Episode 4 (where Lupin is caught and Zenigata is uncomfortably slimy) is quite popular on YouTube. X__X
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Inspector Zenigata
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« Reply #9: February 11, 2009, 11:28:56 AM » |
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after all this talk i want a italian Lupin DVD  |
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Sad cactus
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« Reply #10: February 11, 2009, 02:19:04 PM » |
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Me too, : ( I wish Italy was on Amazon.
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bunnialchemistmeep
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« Reply #11: February 11, 2009, 04:31:25 PM » |
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At the risk of venturing way the heck into stereotypes, I can't help thinking that there's also something about the anime itself that has special appeal for large sectors of the Italian collective cultural psyche--let's see, the adventures of a wacky randy anti-authoritarian rascal who's infatuated with fast cars and fast women ... I dunno ... Well, I'm not from Italy, but I am of primarily Italian descent... And I'm a Lupin fan. Maybe you're on to something! Perhaps it's genetic? I remember hearing a comment about how Italians relate to Jigen because he smokes as often as they do. I mean that in the nicest possible way, of course. I don't want to offend anyone. |
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I replie to this old thread just to say that, being italian and actually 28 y.o., I think Lupin was very well know here for many reasons. Surely very very gread voice dubbing things that italians do at best after many years of movie dubbing. Surely for great intros ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LhMZjM09yxI second series intro with third series images... but great)... and surely cause the subject was quiet "adult" and exciting in many episodes. We are used to think to lupin remembering the second series with red jacket. |
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BBally
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The Italian dub was my true introduction to the world of Lupin III. Although Anime is quite popular in Arabic countries, we never got Lupin dubbed in Arabic so I tended to find my anime viewing on my satalite dish even on networks with languages I didn't understand, Italian included. But that didn't stop me from enjoying watching Lupin outsmart Zenigata in every episode.
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Gold Demona
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My first exposure to the Italian dub was from downloading a bootleg Italian dvd of First Contact. I was already super obsessed with Lupin when I found it, so it was a real treat to watch it in a language I can actually guess at and sort of understand. (cuz I speak Spanish) I have since gone to eBay and bought a legitimate version, of course, because it looks so much better on my shelf than a bootleg does. I envy Italy so much because they have EVERYTHING Lupin. =( Just a couple months ago, I watched a bunch of cut scenes from one of the PS2 games they got, titled "Lupin is Dead, Zenigata is in Love". Awesome game. What'd we get here in the States? "Treasure of the Sorcerer King"..... Decent story. Not a bad game, but the other game seems to have a much better story to it. =/ |
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